Documenting Failure - Episode 5 - Detailed Timestamps
Detailed timestamps:
00:00:02 - Intro begins.
00:00:31 - Start of podcast- Toni Dee asks for intros, descriptions of who they are and what they look like.
00:01:58 - Bobby describes herself.
00:03:21 - Selina introduces herself.
00:04:00 - Guests talk about stating their age when being introduced and the impact and intention this has.
00:05:24 - Toni-Dee introduces herself
00:06:06 - Transition Music
00:06:14 - Toni-Dee begins talking about experts and expertise. Toni-Dee asks Selina to set context about Bobby’s work and relationship to the arts through Bobby’s work.
00:06:48 - Selina begins to talk about learning about Bobby’s work and how this relationship evolved.
00:08:36 - Bobby talks about her love of mentoring, being excited by Selina’s work and this relationship.
00:13:54 - Toni- Dee asks Bobby to talk about how she started her company start in 1995 and where she was with her disability at this time.
00:14:44 - Bobby begins to answer Toni-Dee’s question about starting her company.
00:27:09 - Selina begins talking about the awareness of having people who came before them to be able to see that disability led organisations are possible.
00:28:24 - Bobby talks about the inspiration of Jane Austen, Virginia Woolf and other artists in the 70’s.
00:30:14 - Bobby talks about ageism and beginning to become disabled.She discusses the injustice of the system and being let down by these.
00:33:55 - Transition Music
00:34:01 - Toni Dee asks if there was ever a bit of insight or a moment in any of those processes between starting your company, and now where you've been able to go, ‘ah, we did, we've done that once already, that is a failing that I've done already, we're going to do it differently this time’?
00:34:20 - Bobby answers with her examples of failings that they then went on to learn from.
00:36:56 - Bobby asks if has this happened with Selina Thompson Ltd.
00:36:58 - Selina answers with the companies’ examples of learning.
00:38:07 - Bobby talks about her example of what can happen when the learning is not listened to. The guests begin to talk about when taking on too much the body begins to break down.
00:40:16 - Guests talk about ways to communicate and team instinct behind identifying when we cannot realistically do the work without making yourself ill.
00:41:31 - Guests talk about how often people want the work and the product but not the person behind it who has different needs and health to be mindful of. Guests also talk about admitting when we do not have capacity to do the work and how we can signpost to other artists who can at that time.
00:43:46 - Selina mentions where the podcast came from through learning and failure.
00:47:29 - Transition Restaurant Chatter
00:48:06 - [Transition music]
00:48:08 - Toni- Dee asks about pacing and as someone who has started a company a long time ago, like, how long you felt it, it took for you to feel like the company was operating in the way that you needed it to.
00:48:27 - Bobby talks about the risk that comes with the work. Bobby then talks about how pacing works for her and the longer she has on a project the better.
00:50:48 - Selina talks about the pacing best for Selina Thompson Ltd. Guests talk about balancing the art with running an organisation.
00:53:24 - Bobby and Selina talk about the parts of the running a company that they enjoy.
00:55:17 - [Transition Restaurant Chatter]
00:55:40 - Toni-Dee asks the guests about the future. Is there anything in the future that you can think of, or something that you're excited by that your learnings around failure and success are making you feel differently about what's to come.
00:56:09 - Selina begins by answering what she is excited about.
00:57:20 - Bobby answers with what she is excited about, her shoulder replacement, taking time off and her studio.
00:59:40 - Guest discussion end. Toni-Dee closes off by thanking the guests for their time.
00:59:51 - Transition Music
00:59:54 - Toni-Dee thanks all participants and the team who helped make the podcast.